ive f*cking had it
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:49 am
#28501- OtisSupreme Overlord
- Location : Texas
im sick and tired of the stealth perk "ghost".
why must it be included in every single COD game? the developers do not understand that no other perk can compete with a UAV immune perk EXCEPT stopping power. that's the only way that "ghost" can ever be balanced.
being a PC player, we have a small player base and i often play with the same players every day. i see the same players use ghost in EVERY SINGLE GAME. in a testament to the perk's power, when these players DONT use ghost, they do horrible. they rely so much on that ONE perk.
99% of the time they also pair ghost with an SMG w/ laser sight.
there is absolutely ZERO downside to using ghost.
lightweight - move 5% faster and no fall damage
flak jacket - survive ONE nade blast. cant survive a HK drone or an RC car.
hardline - no one uses this
blindeye - you can just stay inside to avoid air support
none of those can compete.
all the other perks in the other tiers have downsides to using them. if i use engineer, i cant climb shit fast. if i use extreme conditioning, i cant see frisbees on the ground, etc.
why must it be included in every single COD game? the developers do not understand that no other perk can compete with a UAV immune perk EXCEPT stopping power. that's the only way that "ghost" can ever be balanced.
being a PC player, we have a small player base and i often play with the same players every day. i see the same players use ghost in EVERY SINGLE GAME. in a testament to the perk's power, when these players DONT use ghost, they do horrible. they rely so much on that ONE perk.
99% of the time they also pair ghost with an SMG w/ laser sight.
there is absolutely ZERO downside to using ghost.
lightweight - move 5% faster and no fall damage
flak jacket - survive ONE nade blast. cant survive a HK drone or an RC car.
hardline - no one uses this
blindeye - you can just stay inside to avoid air support
none of those can compete.
all the other perks in the other tiers have downsides to using them. if i use engineer, i cant climb shit fast. if i use extreme conditioning, i cant see frisbees on the ground, etc.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:10 am
#28502- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
I agree. However I can argue that you must need a UAV to do well. Otherwise ghost wouldnt bother you as much.
Earn a VSAT.
(Just playing Devils Advocate).
I do agree with you though. FJ is the most useless perk. If you have ANY prior damage.... I'm talking a concussion/flash/emp nade hits 10 feet from you, you cannot survive a nade.
Playing stealth has absolute no drawbacks. If you dished out 10% less damage id be happy. I noticed silencers dont really have a drawback neither.
Earn a VSAT.
(Just playing Devils Advocate).
I do agree with you though. FJ is the most useless perk. If you have ANY prior damage.... I'm talking a concussion/flash/emp nade hits 10 feet from you, you cannot survive a nade.
Playing stealth has absolute no drawbacks. If you dished out 10% less damage id be happy. I noticed silencers dont really have a drawback neither.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:55 am
#28505- AlphaI like Pink
Agreed. Preach.
But don't waste your time talking to a group that 100% used to agree with. We're down to about 10 people who get it. The rest have broken down and use it, then defend it.
Perk is for pussies and pussy playstyles.
But don't waste your time talking to a group that 100% used to agree with. We're down to about 10 people who get it. The rest have broken down and use it, then defend it.
Perk is for pussies and pussy playstyles.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:19 am
#28510- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
85% of the community uses perk 1 greed and has either FJ/Ghost, or Hardline/Ghost
I've never equipped ghost on a single one of my 6 classes, never will. I can just as easily shoot down an uav (which is an active participation in the game), than be lazy and use a perk for something so meaningless
I'm so tired of this community and how they've taken what once was a great game (COD4) and just took a shit all over it.
I've never equipped ghost on a single one of my 6 classes, never will. I can just as easily shoot down an uav (which is an active participation in the game), than be lazy and use a perk for something so meaningless
I'm so tired of this community and how they've taken what once was a great game (COD4) and just took a shit all over it.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:23 am
#28511Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:28 am
#28514- RickMember
Shadow wrote:What they should do is reduce the damage of the gun when you pick ghost. Or you can't select anything that shows other players. UAV, CUAV, BB, Target Finder, etc.
This actually makes some sense. However unfortunately the community would never embrace something like this.
And speaking of ghost I thought it was so toned down that it was virtually useless now.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:31 am
#28515- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
it isn't the perk itself, because it isn't all that useful, but the way the community uses it now, is that they run to their head glitch spot, and stay; it's how the community just can't let go of the idea of the perk, the desperate grasp at their crutch, how they need it
it's sad
I can't get a half competent random in an objective game mode, but I can easily find someone that needs to wear ghost
it's sad
I can't get a half competent random in an objective game mode, but I can easily find someone that needs to wear ghost
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:37 am
#28516Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:38 am
#28517- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
I've said for a long time, that if you choose to use ghost, you can't use any kill streaks that you are denying others.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:51 am
#28518- RyanMember
- Location : North west UK
I refuse to use it, I'd rather be a red dot in the screen, means more action anyway.
But I don't really use the mini map either, nor do I ever stop moving. Yes I may lose some of that magical k/d, yes I may die more but to be honest, who gives a shit.
But I don't really use the mini map either, nor do I ever stop moving. Yes I may lose some of that magical k/d, yes I may die more but to be honest, who gives a shit.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:56 am
#28520- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Woah....Booster..."lose some of that magical KD....?"
Have you gone fcking MAD???
Protect.
The.
KD.
But fo realz, it's the first question I get asked when a student finds out I play.
My first to them, what's you SPM.
Their response, "what's score per minute?"
Have you gone fcking MAD???
Protect.
The.
KD.
But fo realz, it's the first question I get asked when a student finds out I play.
My first to them, what's you SPM.
Their response, "what's score per minute?"
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:59 am
#28521- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
Why can't a developer make a game that runs as smooth as COD, but for people with balls?
Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:16 am
#28524- RyanMember
- Location : North west UK
Because Chisa, the sales wouldn't be worth it. Can you imagine someone picking it up off the shelf and reading the back.....
"Want a game where you wreck shop like you're in an 80's action movie..... Want to meet other badasses out in the middle of the map where best man wins?.... Sick of people needing their hands held while they have mommy telling them how good they are? Oh.... Your not interested.... Cod is 3 shelfs down."
And to be honest Kaz, if I where to start playing properly I could see myself getting obsessed with spm.
"Want a game where you wreck shop like you're in an 80's action movie..... Want to meet other badasses out in the middle of the map where best man wins?.... Sick of people needing their hands held while they have mommy telling them how good they are? Oh.... Your not interested.... Cod is 3 shelfs down."
And to be honest Kaz, if I where to start playing properly I could see myself getting obsessed with spm.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:19 am
#28525- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
can you imagine a game where there's no head glitch spots, no perks, and you're given random weapons, constant uav, and the winners of every match get naked women to look at post game?
Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:31 am
#28534Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:38 am
#28535- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
absolutely, in a second
I play Battlefield
I play Battlefield
Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:51 am
#28536- AlphaI like Pink
Using ghost is not basically the same thing. They have to stay hidden to stay alive longer. In a game where no one is on radar means your surprise 'flanking' doesn't exist.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:53 am
#28537- OrrophinMember
- Location : UK
Chisa wrote:can you imagine a game where there's no head glitch spots, no perks, and you're given random weapons, constant uav, and the winners of every match get naked women to look at post game?
Team Fortress 2
Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:09 pm
#28539- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Ik0n wrote:Just out of curiosity, would any of you play CoD2? There was hardly, if any, camping. However, there were also no killstreaks so that means no uav.
Would you guys play a game were people were moving consistently but had no UAV?
Yep Id play it.
ive been playing HCTDM lately. Because the lag is less apparent (most times... because of 2 bullet kill). And they got rid fo the respawn delay in HCTDM.
Its an issue when TDM plays the same pace as HCTDM. TDM was my go to game mode for most of COD. It has slowly gotten worse and worse.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:42 pm
#28558- vnzuelan dudeMember
I've honestly rarely seen players use Ghost.
In fact, most of them will run Hardline rather than Ghost.
Not even Snipers use Ghost.
And I find Flak Jacket to do for the most part what its meant to do. Combined with Tactical Mask I can easily raze camping spots without trouble. I still wish it would consistently resist Hunter Killer Drones though.
My biggest complaint are those killer scorestreaks, that are too many and too fast, in a too dangerous environment to do anything about it. Most maps are rather small which means every second I spend looking upwards is a second that the enemy uses to get closer.
This is the main reason why I avoid playing objective game modes as much as I can and stick to Team Deathmatch. You guys may think its boring to kill without motive, I think its a safe haven from score farmers and multiple lightning strikes.
In fact, most of them will run Hardline rather than Ghost.
Not even Snipers use Ghost.
And I find Flak Jacket to do for the most part what its meant to do. Combined with Tactical Mask I can easily raze camping spots without trouble. I still wish it would consistently resist Hunter Killer Drones though.
My biggest complaint are those killer scorestreaks, that are too many and too fast, in a too dangerous environment to do anything about it. Most maps are rather small which means every second I spend looking upwards is a second that the enemy uses to get closer.
This is the main reason why I avoid playing objective game modes as much as I can and stick to Team Deathmatch. You guys may think its boring to kill without motive, I think its a safe haven from score farmers and multiple lightning strikes.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:15 pm
#28563Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:27 pm
#28565- chris hansonMember
I don't see what the big deal is. If you're not moving you show up on radar.
Even the heaviest of rushers will show up on radar a lot.
Even the heaviest of rushers will show up on radar a lot.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:40 pm
#28567- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Assassin bothered me. Ghost in BO bothered me.
In this game, for some reason, I'm indifferent.
I think it's because lag is such a part of the game, perks dont' even factor in. Bring back SP? Won't make a lick of difference, other than to give people another choice to make. In the end, success or failure depends on connection....
I mean, when you routinely shoot someone in the back from 10' out, and they can turn on you and 3 buillet kill you....there are bigger worries than ghost.
In this game, for some reason, I'm indifferent.
I think it's because lag is such a part of the game, perks dont' even factor in. Bring back SP? Won't make a lick of difference, other than to give people another choice to make. In the end, success or failure depends on connection....
I mean, when you routinely shoot someone in the back from 10' out, and they can turn on you and 3 buillet kill you....there are bigger worries than ghost.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:45 pm
#28568- AlphaI like Pink
The persona bothers the shit out of me. Its the type of players that come with it. Its not unlocked at level 55. Its unlocked at level 4, permanently and on 5/6 classes. That one class is for the gun challenge, but they'll never risk that against anyone but a lobby of christmas randys.
Hiding should have vanished with damage and health. You cut 2 legs off a tripod and its easier to see the dick.
Hiding should have vanished with damage and health. You cut 2 legs off a tripod and its easier to see the dick.
Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:48 pm
#28571- vnzuelan dudeMember
Shadow wrote:Shit. I need a xbox if you rarely see ghost.
On PS3, ghost is on everyone's class and in every game.
Ghost and perk 1 greed. oi
I'm being honest, rarely see it.
Or maybe they do have it and I never paid attention to it because they are all up in my face spraying their jizz guns.
I'm not playing "Hide-n-Seek" to the end of the Deathmatch's time limit like I did in the first Black Ops.
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