Ghostly Questions
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Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:50 pm
#32720- RickMember
I just got asked why I care so much if someone is using ghost in HC as it only effects me when a UAV is up.
I honestly did not have an answer for them. I think I have just come to see it as a cowards perk and cannot get past the fact that it slows everything down maybe.
I honestly did not have an answer for them. I think I have just come to see it as a cowards perk and cannot get past the fact that it slows everything down maybe.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:52 pm
#32721- moosedawg06Member
- Location : Georgia
Because once someone EARNS a UAV, they still aren't rewarded for it.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:09 pm
#32723- BamaGoodfellaMember
- Location : Alabama
moosedawg06 wrote:Because once someone EARNS a UAV, they still aren't rewarded for it.
The same thing could be said for Blind Eye LOL. I don't have a problem with people using ghost, I just think there are a lot more powerful 1st tier perks to choose from.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:14 pm
#32725- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
I prefer swiss cheese flak jacket, that never seems to do anything for me
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:16 pm
#32726- AlphaI like Pink
because they're so terrified of being found, they can't be on a sweeping radar 5-30 seconds until that same person can shoot it down. They have no faith in their own ability, can't win a head to head if noticed and have to play by hiding. They are trash.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:17 pm
#32728- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Alpha wrote:because they're so terrified of being found, they can't be on a sweeping radar 5-30 seconds until that same person can shoot it down. They have no faith in their own ability, can't win a head to head if noticed and have to play by hiding. They are trash.
You ever notice how SLOW the sweep is in this game anyways? Its not worth it at all lol.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:20 pm
#32730- AlphaI like Pink
I notice when someone puts one up, no matter how many are in the room 50% won't be on it. And when you put up a Vsat the ghost/tryhards leave, and when you put up the 5th Vsat in a game players are still using ghost because its on every single class.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:24 pm
#32734- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
That's been my objection to it since BO.
If people are playing and actually earn a streak, why is it that someone can just set something up that makes them immuned to it?
Let's say we have 6 people, and in 1 TDM game, we all earn 1 UAV (total of 6). That ends up being 6 killstreaks earned.
The ghost user never did anything to remain hidden, other than equip a perk. They clicked a button.
If people earn something, let them use it, and then let people have to do something to counter it (UAV -> Launcher to remove, Stealth Chopper -> Launcher to remove, dude on killstreak -> find him and kill him, UAV -> Counter UAV, and so on.)
If people are playing and actually earn a streak, why is it that someone can just set something up that makes them immuned to it?
Let's say we have 6 people, and in 1 TDM game, we all earn 1 UAV (total of 6). That ends up being 6 killstreaks earned.
The ghost user never did anything to remain hidden, other than equip a perk. They clicked a button.
If people earn something, let them use it, and then let people have to do something to counter it (UAV -> Launcher to remove, Stealth Chopper -> Launcher to remove, dude on killstreak -> find him and kill him, UAV -> Counter UAV, and so on.)
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:25 pm
#32735- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Kaz--Money wrote:That's been my objection to it since BO.
If people are playing and actually earn a streak, why is it that someone can just set something up that makes them immuned to it?
Let's say we have 6 people, and in 1 TDM game, we all earn 1 UAV (total of 6). That ends up being 6 killstreaks earned.
The ghost user never did anything to remain hidden, other than equip a perk. They clicked a button.
If people earn something, let them use it, and then let people have to do something to counter it (UAV -> Launcher to remove, Stealth Chopper -> Launcher to remove, dude on killstreak -> find him and kill him, UAV -> Counter UAV, and so on.)
Blind eye is worse. It takes away from people having earned choppers.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:34 pm
#32736- AlphaI like Pink
Nice to have a passive perk that works 100% of the time.
FJ does not. Death by C4, RC, Hunter killers, RPGs, SMAW, nades. not direct impacted either.
Scav does not. How many bodies do you run laps around looking for bullets because the last 3 haven't dropped a pack?
Does Hardwired protect you from EMP nades? I had to switch classes because I was EMP'd just as long using it. Was useless having it equipped.
FJ does not. Death by C4, RC, Hunter killers, RPGs, SMAW, nades. not direct impacted either.
Scav does not. How many bodies do you run laps around looking for bullets because the last 3 haven't dropped a pack?
Does Hardwired protect you from EMP nades? I had to switch classes because I was EMP'd just as long using it. Was useless having it equipped.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:49 pm
#32739- BamaGoodfellaMember
- Location : Alabama
Syndrome wrote:
Blind eye is worse. It takes away from people having earned choppers.
I have to laugh at when I hear people say they're "entitled" to a KS. The only thing you're entitled to is killing me with your gun....end of story. That's why I wish the series would go back to COD4 style streaks where gun kills were more important than being able to press the d-pad and having a streak do all the work for you.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:56 pm
#32741- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
BamaGoodfella wrote:Syndrome wrote:
Blind eye is worse. It takes away from people having earned choppers.
I have to laugh at when I hear people say they're "entitled" to a KS. The only thing you're entitled to is killing me with your gun....end of story. That's why I wish the series would go back to COD4 style streaks where gun kills were more important than being able to press the d-pad and having a streak do all the work for you.
If I get that many points, I am entitled to what I earn. Why is it that im only entitled to getting kills with my gun... if ive already gotten 13 gun kills straight without dying? If I can do that, I think ive earned my right to slaughter you with my high streak and end the game that much faster.
Did they not have a chopper in Cod4? Granted it wasnt as powerful, but you couldnt hide from it with perks neither. Nor could you lock on to it with a weapon and take it down in 1 go. Had to have skill with an RPG or a team effort with guns (LMGs preferred). Just because you were part of parties that whored choppers and you had to rely on guns to kill more... doesnt mean the choppers were worthless. Oftentimes it would get kills and keep the enemy trapped in buildings.
Completely different games with different mechanics.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:10 pm
#32752- BamaGoodfellaMember
- Location : Alabama
Syndrome wrote:
If I get that many points, I am entitled to what I earn. Why is it that im only entitled to getting kills with my gun... if ive already gotten 13 gun kills straight without dying? If I can do that, I think ive earned my right to slaughter you with my high streak and end the game that much faster.
Did they not have a chopper in Cod4? Granted it wasnt as powerful, but you couldnt hide from it with perks neither. Nor could you lock on to it with a weapon and take it down in 1 go. Had to have skill with an RPG or a team effort with guns (LMGs preferred). Just because you were part of parties that whored choppers and you had to rely on guns to kill more... doesnt mean the choppers were worthless. Oftentimes it would get kills and keep the enemy trapped in buildings.
Completely different games with different mechanics.
LOL at the COD4 chopper! It was so easy to avoid it wasn't even really a factor on most maps. MW2 started the trend of killstreaks playing the game for us. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if they took ALL the killstreaks out of the game LOL.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:14 pm
#32754- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
BamaGoodfella wrote:
It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if they took ALL the killstreaks out of the game LOL.
AMEN
Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:22 pm
#32755- AlphaI like Pink
Fk that, leave my Sentry alone. Nothing like the screams of enemy spawning with a turret pointed at their face lol.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:27 pm
#32758- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
I wouldnt mind seeing streaks go as well.
Too many counters and balances.
Too many counters and balances.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:28 pm
#32759- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
take COD, strip away 90% of the extraneous stuff, put it on Battlefield quality servers, and you have the only game we'll need for years
Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:29 pm
#32760- AlphaI like Pink
There are titties in BF?
Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:31 pm
#32763- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
is it because I said "strip?"
Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:16 pm
#32772- RickMember
This was their response:
This is the video I'm talking about, I'm assuming you mean a different one.
This is what is wrong with this game, not ghost.
[URL="http://www.cod247.com/showthread.php?t=81687"]http://www.cod247.com/showthread.php?t=81687[/URL]
You see it as a cowards perk, because you see cowardly people use it. A person of true skill using this perk correctly, can decimate people. Because it is about element of surprise instead of oh let me wait for this red dot to come to me. If anything the UAV promotes camping as now players will stop moving and wait for red dots...
Again, no one even complained about this perk until black ops took out stopping power. So for 3 games it was never a problem.
All those comments are people complaining about the enemy not showing up on UAV. Why should it counter my 425 point scorestreak... Seriously, quit complaining and adapt. I bet those players also rejoiced when they patched Sitrep pro in MW3. Because we all know choosing dead silence was already a handicap when compared to steady aim or stalker. After the patch it was pointless.
Do you think me using another tier 1 perk in this game would have helped. I don't! I was playing alone...
Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:40 pm
#32779- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
You see it as a cowards perk, because you see cowardly people use it. A person of true skill using this perk correctly, can decimate people. Because it is about element of surprise instead of oh let me wait for this red dot to come to me. If anything the UAV promotes camping as now players will stop moving and wait for red dots...
There is no WRONG way to use the perk (Just as there is no CORRECT way to use it). It does all the work for you. You can sit in a corner or flank an enemy. You are still hiding like a bitch. To say someone of true skill uses Ghost is an oxymoron. If they had true skill, they wouldnt need the perk. Could they win a 1v1 without the element of surprise? Probably not.
UAV promotes camping? Sounds like a ghost user to me. 90% of COD community camps. UAV goes up, community still camps. I have tot go to the dot, not the other way around.
This Ghost user must never watch or heard WOR. He doesnt use the perk, because he wants the enemy to go to his dot. He is the biggest camper the game has to offer.
"Oh let me wait for this red dot to come to me". lmao. I question whether people know what camping is. I suppose a lot of people have different viewpoints. I dont always run around corners. Sometimes, when I know the enemy is around the corner and there are multiple people... I will wait on them. Other times I will go rambo.
Back to the topic at hand - Skilled Ghost users. lmao
Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:52 pm
#32785My question is; do you guys have the same issue with Blind Eye and Hard-Wired? They hide you from killstreaks while doing no work to do so other than picking the perk.
Edit: I'm good with removing all killstreaks and stats from the game. I think that would solve a lot of issues.. but wouldn't have the player count obviously.
Edit: I'm good with removing all killstreaks and stats from the game. I think that would solve a lot of issues.. but wouldn't have the player count obviously.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:56 pm
#32786Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:36 pm
#32790- AlphaI like Pink
I could care less about Blind Eye, never see Hardwired. If I have a chopper of some sort up. There's a Vsat to match, the red arrow not cowering indoors is a +kill.
That answer sounds like someone who has it on at least 4:5, 9:10 classes and won't stay in a game that gets dirty. Lots of CQC hardnosed battles for a base, that person leaves. Enemy team well organized and throws up 1 Vsat, that person leaves.
Ghost users aren't good. They've mentally convinced themselves they improved but they usually die in lost gun battles when found. Their fake scores give them some sense of accomplishment. Running ez mode classes drifting around shooting people in the back would be like shooting a tac inserting friend.
Players and silenced weapons are loud in this game. Not footsteps, player interaction with map, the breathing heavy and calling out what they're throwing, reloading, pulling out Hunter killers, care package markers...
After all back n forth, it falls back to players that choose bitch perks play like little bitches. Hiding is hiding. In that sense, are we campers? Yes, we've been called campers 100s of times because we capture and defend the base from the base. What you need to hide from a radar for in objective modes when there is a 30 foot fighting radius you have to control to win?
"Xcal uses ghost, you saying the best player to ever let me suck his dick isn't good?" He is getting progressively easier to kill. I bet his MW2 version would whip this ones ass.
That answer sounds like someone who has it on at least 4:5, 9:10 classes and won't stay in a game that gets dirty. Lots of CQC hardnosed battles for a base, that person leaves. Enemy team well organized and throws up 1 Vsat, that person leaves.
Ghost users aren't good. They've mentally convinced themselves they improved but they usually die in lost gun battles when found. Their fake scores give them some sense of accomplishment. Running ez mode classes drifting around shooting people in the back would be like shooting a tac inserting friend.
Players and silenced weapons are loud in this game. Not footsteps, player interaction with map, the breathing heavy and calling out what they're throwing, reloading, pulling out Hunter killers, care package markers...
After all back n forth, it falls back to players that choose bitch perks play like little bitches. Hiding is hiding. In that sense, are we campers? Yes, we've been called campers 100s of times because we capture and defend the base from the base. What you need to hide from a radar for in objective modes when there is a 30 foot fighting radius you have to control to win?
"Xcal uses ghost, you saying the best player to ever let me suck his dick isn't good?" He is getting progressively easier to kill. I bet his MW2 version would whip this ones ass.
Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:49 pm
#32793- BamaGoodfellaMember
- Location : Alabama
Alpha wrote:
"Xcal uses ghost, you saying the best player to ever let me suck his dick isn't good?" He is getting progressively easier to kill. I bet his MW2 version would whip this ones ass.
Xcal is still one of the best players on YouTube, no denying the facts bro.
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