The Success of Lag Comp. Makes sense.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:57 am
#31600- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
So, I got to thinking how TA would look at this steaming pile of sht and not feel like complete failures:
I firmly believe they have designed the game around lag comp, so, when it works, here's what it looks like.
TEAM A
Player 1: 33-34
Player 2: 23-20
Player 3: 34-30
Player 4: 18-22
Player 5: 43-45
Player 6: 28-22
TEAM B
Player 1: 34-33
Player 2: 20-23
Player 3: 30-34
Player 4: 22-18
Player 5: 45-43
Player 6: 22-28
I saw something like this the other night....right after we all b1tched all game about lag, then got b1tched out by the other team for "having connection" over them.
IMO, this is the genius of lag comp. No one does exceptionally well, no one does exceptionally poorly.
312 SPM guys (like myself) get the same kdr as the 198 SPM guy.
I pay for an 18/3 internet, he pays for a 3/.5 internet.
I guarantee TA would see this and get a collective hard on, then start high fiving, and butt slapping.
If someone like Alpha goes 91-4, they see a failure on thier end because the poor cvnts who can't play actually got made to look like thier ability.
I firmly believe they have designed the game around lag comp, so, when it works, here's what it looks like.
TEAM A
Player 1: 33-34
Player 2: 23-20
Player 3: 34-30
Player 4: 18-22
Player 5: 43-45
Player 6: 28-22
TEAM B
Player 1: 34-33
Player 2: 20-23
Player 3: 30-34
Player 4: 22-18
Player 5: 45-43
Player 6: 22-28
I saw something like this the other night....right after we all b1tched all game about lag, then got b1tched out by the other team for "having connection" over them.
IMO, this is the genius of lag comp. No one does exceptionally well, no one does exceptionally poorly.
312 SPM guys (like myself) get the same kdr as the 198 SPM guy.
I pay for an 18/3 internet, he pays for a 3/.5 internet.
I guarantee TA would see this and get a collective hard on, then start high fiving, and butt slapping.
If someone like Alpha goes 91-4, they see a failure on thier end because the poor cvnts who can't play actually got made to look like thier ability.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:59 am
#31601- moosedawg06Member
- Location : Georgia
It should be setup like this: your connection is based on a dedicated server, and your score is dependent on how good of a player you are. Sadly, it ain't.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
#31604- hiph0pan0tamusBUNKDRUNK
- Location : In my own little world
host should go to the closest person to average in the room.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:06 am
#31605- moosedawg06Member
- Location : Georgia
We connect to Juan Pablo in Puerto Rico quite often.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:21 am
#31608- AlphaI like Pink
We connected to someone who wouldn't tell us where they lived. Just laughed because we were struggling to hold 2 bars all game. Then they left.
If no one on 1 team can get 3 bars, who the F was it searching on?
I'm still not convinced they don't handicap damage/health to different players through the games.
If no one on 1 team can get 3 bars, who the F was it searching on?
I'm still not convinced they don't handicap damage/health to different players through the games.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:19 pm
#31613- RyanMember
- Location : North west UK
Forget this connection bogging bullshit.... just decrease or increase damage % based on ping. host gets "host" but zero baseline for damage... could it work?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:19 pm
#31614- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
That was the point of the fake scoreboard.
Some people get a handicap, others get punished.
I'm not saying I'm so good that I get punished, I just live 3000miles from anyone (it's only 600 more miles to Hawaii from here than it is to Boston. fcked), so, naturally, I get punished.
If I am having a good game, something certainly kicks in and that swings, in an attempt to level out a potentially positive score.
No reason someone with a 126 SPM should beat me like GSP would beat Stevie Wonder.
But, it happens all the time.
I can be 2nd or 3rd most productive HQ player in the lobby (next to Alpha and Syn) most nights, and still have that not reflected in my score.
Some people get a handicap, others get punished.
I'm not saying I'm so good that I get punished, I just live 3000miles from anyone (it's only 600 more miles to Hawaii from here than it is to Boston. fcked), so, naturally, I get punished.
If I am having a good game, something certainly kicks in and that swings, in an attempt to level out a potentially positive score.
No reason someone with a 126 SPM should beat me like GSP would beat Stevie Wonder.
But, it happens all the time.
I can be 2nd or 3rd most productive HQ player in the lobby (next to Alpha and Syn) most nights, and still have that not reflected in my score.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:31 pm
#31615- AlphaI like Pink
Kaz--Money wrote:
No reason someone with a 126 SPM should beat me like GSP would beat Stevie Wonder.
But, it happens all the time.
I lol'd. Cause it happens , all the time. When the phrase is coined, you got BLOP'd, there is a problem in coding.
Last night on Yemen, both games. We were winning the 1st by 100 pts, none of us could buy a kill the latter half of 5 minutes. We lost 140-135 with 1.5 seconds on the clock while 3 of us were destroying the base.
Game #2, we took a 175-0 lead. Lost every base after that and won 175-120? Couldn't kill anyone after the lag comp swing.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:01 pm
#31623- o_homescrub_oMember
- Location : Wash DC
Last night we lost to a one man wrecking machine who almost had 100 kills on all of us. 140-135 was the score in HQ.
Next game they get handicapped and we run the tables on them and they quit as soon as its 100-0. The guy who had 75 kills game prior went negative the next and rage quit.
Next game they get handicapped and we run the tables on them and they quit as soon as its 100-0. The guy who had 75 kills game prior went negative the next and rage quit.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:06 pm
#31624- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
There is definately something in the game that either cripples or empowers.
I know that base location and spawns can dictate the outcome, but, it shouldn't be the case that if you spawn at a base, you can't be removed from it....and if you'reup 165-0, and you spawn on every base, you shouldn't lose the remainder of the bases.
Something Blops's us.....be nice to hear what and why they've coded it liek that.
I know that base location and spawns can dictate the outcome, but, it shouldn't be the case that if you spawn at a base, you can't be removed from it....and if you'reup 165-0, and you spawn on every base, you shouldn't lose the remainder of the bases.
Something Blops's us.....be nice to hear what and why they've coded it liek that.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:57 pm
#31636- BamaGoodfellaMember
- Location : Alabama
I know that if I get a 3 bar connection, I'm going to struggle to break even. 3 bars on BO2 plays like a 1 bar connection on COD4. Last night we were playing COD4, and Shadow was destroying the other team on my host & getting 3 bars consistenly even though he lives around 1700 miles away from me LOL. The other day Moose, Alpha, and some of the other Southern L3 crew were trying to play BO2, and we couldn't buy a decent connection even though they all live a lot closer to me than Shadow.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:00 pm
#31639- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Shadow is a beastly player, but, his sht connection is what gives him either God mode, or Dog mode.
He's either 28-0 or 5-15.
At least with me it's consistent....averaging a 1 kd with no really big swings.
Just consistent sht.
He's either 28-0 or 5-15.
At least with me it's consistent....averaging a 1 kd with no really big swings.
Just consistent sht.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:03 pm
#31641- AlphaI like Pink
That guy was a 250 SPM player, not a VTOL bringing him to 40-1 player. He was 2 bullet killing with the 1st LMG and pulling it up quicker than any SMG set up.
Speaking of. I shot 4 launchers at VTOL and saw someone else shoot 1 before it went down. How many flares it got?
Speaking of. I shot 4 launchers at VTOL and saw someone else shoot 1 before it went down. How many flares it got?
Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:07 pm
#31645- BamaGoodfellaMember
- Location : Alabama
Alpha wrote:That guy was a 250 SPM player, not a VTOL bringing him to 40-1 player. He was 2 bullet killing with the 1st LMG and pulling it up quicker than any SMG set up.
Speaking of. I shot 4 launchers at VTOL and saw someone else shoot 1 before it went down. How many flares it got?
That game was f'cking retarded! I was getting killed around corners and dieing before I ever saw anyone on my screen. Had to leave after that game to keep from breaking something! I don't mind getting outplayed, but getting my ass handed to me due to connection makes my blood boil.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pm
#31650- hiph0pan0tamusBUNKDRUNK
- Location : In my own little world
Alpha wrote:That guy was a 250 SPM player, not a VTOL bringing him to 40-1 player. He was 2 bullet killing with the 1st LMG and pulling it up quicker than any SMG set up.
Speaking of. I shot 4 launchers at VTOL and saw someone else shoot 1 before it went down. How many flares it got?
**** launchers... use black hats instead. You can sit inside a building and hack them through a wall. Takes 2 to take down the big streaks.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:00 pm
#31653- AlphaI like Pink
Need 6 more player controlled streaks knocked down to get my Master P camo on launcher. Plus, was a level 19? in that game. No Blackhat, me thinks.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:21 pm
#31658Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:40 pm
#31661- AlphaI like Pink
Aint no way its 1 flare. I shot 2, died and shot 2 more. It was in the wide open on Yemen, no buildings to be hit.
We need to check that EMP the laptop thing. Syn kept hollering to hit the guy in the building, but that Anti air class had stuns on it.
We need to check that EMP the laptop thing. Syn kept hollering to hit the guy in the building, but that Anti air class had stuns on it.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:50 pm
#31663- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
I think he was on the backside of the building on the walk. Z didnt want to go outside.Alpha wrote:Aint no way its 1 flare. I shot 2, died and shot 2 more. It was in the wide open on Yemen, no buildings to be hit.
We need to check that EMP the laptop thing. Syn kept hollering to hit the guy in the building, but that Anti air class had stuns on it.
I know it will work... because it happened to me. Was sitting on the base in my VTOL and went down in 2 seconds came out of my briefcase EMP'd.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:25 pm
#31666- Triple_0_OughtMember
Fit right in with today's prevalent philosophy of "Equality of Outcome > Equality of Opportunity" Just look at some of the comments left under the latest anti-booster vids. where some people openly excuse boosting, saying not everyone has the time or the skill to get diamond camos or nuclear killer titles, but that shouldn't prevent them from accessing parts of the game.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:14 pm
#31673- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
I actually don't give that much of a sht about it.
I razz them in the lobby to counter all the fanboysim and positive attention the other 9 year olds give them.
Call 'em out, ask 'em to use that weapon they have 1370 kills and a 20.30kdr with...and ask them to finish with at least half of their career KDR of 4.29.
They leave before it begins.
They know we know they didn't earn it and can't play like their stats. SO they leave. They are the new attention whore. Like the girl cutting and telling facebook.
Yay. No go achieve something.
I razz them in the lobby to counter all the fanboysim and positive attention the other 9 year olds give them.
Call 'em out, ask 'em to use that weapon they have 1370 kills and a 20.30kdr with...and ask them to finish with at least half of their career KDR of 4.29.
They leave before it begins.
They know we know they didn't earn it and can't play like their stats. SO they leave. They are the new attention whore. Like the girl cutting and telling facebook.
Yay. No go achieve something.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:45 pm
#31677- AlphaI like Pink
How great would that be, if Facebook updated to this century and instead of In A Relationship with... it said "Is currently fcking...."
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:08 pm
#31678- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
The Black Ops page would get the whore of the century award.
Who are you fvcking?
Everybody.
Who are you fvcking?
Everybody.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:10 pm
#31679- moosedawg06Member
- Location : Georgia
Mine would say.... Nobody.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:11 pm
#31681- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
I'm married.
Would match yours if they changed the format.
Would match yours if they changed the format.
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