Man Runs From Sheriff Deputies... but did nothing wrong.
Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:49 pm
#14782- RickMember
This is the direction the United States is going. reminds me of the movie Idiocracy. This guy should be charged with something, wasting tax payers dollars, endangering the police or at least causing them anxiety not knowing what this idiot was going to do.
A man needed to be rescued from a septic tank he jumped into after running from Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Deputies.
The incident began around 8 a.m. Tuesday when dispatch got a call about a man obstructing traffic on the 9th Street Bridge in Ceres. When Deputies were arriving, they saw a man matching the suspect’s description at the Arrow Inn. When the man saw the Sheriff’s cruiser, he ran toward the back of the motel.
Deputies drove around to the back of the motel near the intersection of Ansul and Hosmer Avenues. They couldn’t locate the suspect right away until they heard a noise and realized he had jumped into a septic tank right behind the motel, and got stuck.
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The Ceres Fire Department was called to get him out, but Deputies said he was uncooperative. Eventually, firefighters got him out, uninjured. The Deputies did a background check and it turned out he wasn’t wanted for anything, and since he didn’t actually cause a crime he was released. When the Deputies asked why he ran he said "it’s what he’s seen people do on TV".
The man was released to his family who took him to the hospital to make sure he doesn’t have any health issues from being in the septic tank.
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:42 am
#14865- BlindSquirrelMember
- Location : Left Coast
If wasting tax-payer dollars became a punishable crime, the for-profit prison system could stop picking on people who just want to smoke a joint, and still keep stock holders happy.
Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:47 am
#14866- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
how about the police get their info correct before going to chase someone down?
our prison system and size of it's population is embarrassing
our prison system and size of it's population is embarrassing
Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:52 am
#14867- VetteBrownie
- Location : Ohio
Chisa wrote:how about the police get their info correct before going to chase someone down?
our prison system and size of it's population is embarrassing
The world can't handle the truth that everything in government, including prisons, is infested with corruption.
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Just another reason we need a 3rd party (preferably Libertarian) in our awful 2-party system. All the 2 party system does is cause a huge political divide and slices the population square down the middle. Great way to divide and conquer.
Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:33 pm
#14881- RickMember
The point of the whole thing was his comment about why he ran. = Idiocracy
Actually I am more inclined to believe that the guy was hoping to get tazed so he could try and sue the city, most likely unbeknownst that there are laws in place to keep that from being an issue.
Actually I am more inclined to believe that the guy was hoping to get tazed so he could try and sue the city, most likely unbeknownst that there are laws in place to keep that from being an issue.
Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:35 pm
#14883- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
your paranoia about people constantly looking to "pull one over" on either the gov't, tax payers, or municipalities is alarming
Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:40 pm
#14884- sharpPUSB
- Location : City of Dreams, England
People panic. Makes them think irrationally
Anyways, thought the police shot people who ran away from them? Must not have been a black
Anyways, thought the police shot people who ran away from them? Must not have been a black
Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:51 pm
#14885- VetteBrownie
- Location : Ohio
Chisa wrote:your paranoia about people constantly looking to "pull one over" on either the gov't, tax payers, or municipalities is alarming
Was that aimed at me? I'm not paranoid at all, I just want to see some real change in this country.
Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:54 pm
#14886- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
Vette wrote:Chisa wrote:your paranoia about people constantly looking to "pull one over" on either the gov't, tax payers, or municipalities is alarming
Was that aimed at me? I'm not paranoid at all, I just want to see some real change in this country.
it was aimed at Walk
Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:39 pm
#14896- RickMember
Chisa wrote:your paranoia about people constantly looking to "pull one over" on either the gov't, tax payers, or municipalities is alarming
Not really paranoia, the US is just a sue happy nation.
The earliest one I can recall that could have started this trend would be the person that burned themselves with a cup of caffeine from McDonalds. Though there are probably some before that.
The world is full of crappy people from all parts of the spectrum, super wealthy to homeless.
EDIT: And I can agree with your assumption to a point.
Maybe I have just seen or encountered more bad than the majority of people.
Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:26 pm
#15068- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Here in Canada, you get charged for the rescue bill....
If I crash my bike on one of our trails and I need a heli-lift, I will see a bill for the rescue.
I'm pretty sure, since he did nothing criminal, they can't charge him....for anything other than pulling him out of the septic tank.
I agree, that if you want to start charging people for wasting someone else's time, then you're taking a long and hard stride down the slippery slope...
If it was a car chase, that would be different because people's lives become at risk when vehicles are reaching high speeds through traffic.
I just ask, of all the news that's newsworthy, why pick on something as trivial, meaningless, and pointless as this one? People 'waste' public resources all the time, both intentionally and unintentionally. That's what public servants are there for....to do things that for-profit organizations won't do, for that very reason--because it's a waste of time and money.
I've called the cops on what I thought was a domestic dispute, and another time on a neighbors party that was getting out of hand. Both times, things cooled down and the cops had no choice but to leave because there was nothing there for them to charge.
Should I have been charged for wasting their time? Fckk no.
If I crash my bike on one of our trails and I need a heli-lift, I will see a bill for the rescue.
I'm pretty sure, since he did nothing criminal, they can't charge him....for anything other than pulling him out of the septic tank.
I agree, that if you want to start charging people for wasting someone else's time, then you're taking a long and hard stride down the slippery slope...
If it was a car chase, that would be different because people's lives become at risk when vehicles are reaching high speeds through traffic.
I just ask, of all the news that's newsworthy, why pick on something as trivial, meaningless, and pointless as this one? People 'waste' public resources all the time, both intentionally and unintentionally. That's what public servants are there for....to do things that for-profit organizations won't do, for that very reason--because it's a waste of time and money.
I've called the cops on what I thought was a domestic dispute, and another time on a neighbors party that was getting out of hand. Both times, things cooled down and the cops had no choice but to leave because there was nothing there for them to charge.
Should I have been charged for wasting their time? Fckk no.
Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:44 pm
#15076- RickMember
Kaz--Money wrote:Should I have been charged for wasting their time? Fckk no.
Of course not. You are calling for a legitimate reason, legitimate in the eyes of the majority of people anyway. But this guy is up there with the asshats who call 911 to complain that a fast food restaurant did not give them enough shrimp.
Not sure how many police were in on the chase and if there were other assets like a helicopter or dogs but the fire department was called. To top it off the guy was uncooperative according to the sheriff deputies.
That is good to know about Canada. I think they even do that here in some states. Of course California not being one of them.
Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:25 pm
#15088- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Well, the bottom like is, charging him with even a misdemeanor, or public nuisance, would just waste more public dollars.
Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:38 pm
#15090- RickMember
This is true. You are familiar with the term "You need to spend money to make money", well you need to punish in order to exact change.
Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:10 pm
#15096- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Punish in order to exact change?
A punitive consequence here, simply defies common sense. For one, he broke no laws. Secondly, if there are no laws broken, how, exactly, do you mete out a punishment? Punishing someone who breaks no laws is irresponsible, unethical....and if one so desired to fabricate a charge...it becomes highly subjective. Anytime lawmaking, and the prosecution of crimes becomes subjective, you lose one of the pillars of a free democracy. Third,even if this juvenile and naive little stunt was illegal, reams of evidence demonstrate why, in many instances, punitive measures don't "exact change".
Perhaps I'm incorrect in assuming that by punishing this individual, "that little sht would be taught a lesson...", nevertheless I'll operate with that being the correct assumption here and risk being wrong. If I don't make that assumption, then I have no cluse as to why it would even be a suggestion.
So, what lesson would this person be taught? That running when a cop is chasing them is wrong? That escaping into a small hole in the ground, is a bad idea? That he needs some form of rescue insurance ? That he should take up some cardio vascular exercise, because clearly, he's not capable of performing as he should in this situation?
I mean, clearly, thsi fellow isn't operating with the same mental faculties as you or I would. So, again, I ask, what change would be exacted as a result of a punitive measure meing imposed?
A punitive consequence here, simply defies common sense. For one, he broke no laws. Secondly, if there are no laws broken, how, exactly, do you mete out a punishment? Punishing someone who breaks no laws is irresponsible, unethical....and if one so desired to fabricate a charge...it becomes highly subjective. Anytime lawmaking, and the prosecution of crimes becomes subjective, you lose one of the pillars of a free democracy. Third,even if this juvenile and naive little stunt was illegal, reams of evidence demonstrate why, in many instances, punitive measures don't "exact change".
Perhaps I'm incorrect in assuming that by punishing this individual, "that little sht would be taught a lesson...", nevertheless I'll operate with that being the correct assumption here and risk being wrong. If I don't make that assumption, then I have no cluse as to why it would even be a suggestion.
So, what lesson would this person be taught? That running when a cop is chasing them is wrong? That escaping into a small hole in the ground, is a bad idea? That he needs some form of rescue insurance ? That he should take up some cardio vascular exercise, because clearly, he's not capable of performing as he should in this situation?
I mean, clearly, thsi fellow isn't operating with the same mental faculties as you or I would. So, again, I ask, what change would be exacted as a result of a punitive measure meing imposed?
Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:17 pm
#15113- RickMember
Kaz--Money wrote:Punish in order to exact change?
A punitive consequence here, simply defies common sense. For one, he broke no laws. Secondly, if there are no laws broken, how, exactly, do you mete out a punishment? Punishing someone who breaks no laws is irresponsible, unethical....and if one so desired to fabricate a charge...it becomes highly subjective. Anytime lawmaking, and the prosecution of crimes becomes subjective, you lose one of the pillars of a free democracy. Third,even if this juvenile and naive little stunt was illegal, reams of evidence demonstrate why, in many instances, punitive measures don't "exact change".
Perhaps I'm incorrect in assuming that by punishing this individual, "that little sht would be taught a lesson...", nevertheless I'll operate with that being the correct assumption here and risk being wrong. If I don't make that assumption, then I have no cluse as to why it would even be a suggestion.
So, what lesson would this person be taught? That running when a cop is chasing them is wrong? That escaping into a small hole in the ground, is a bad idea? That he needs some form of rescue insurance ? That he should take up some cardio vascular exercise, because clearly, he's not capable of performing as he should in this situation?
I mean, clearly, thsi fellow isn't operating with the same mental faculties as you or I would. So, again, I ask, what change would be exacted as a result of a punitive measure meing imposed?
You completely ignored my smiley face didn't you.
EDIT: I think that sometimes you guys don't get when I am joking or when I am serious. And/Or you think you have me figured out as to where I stand on things and when I post you might think it slants a certain way when considering certain subjects.
I wish I could actually sit and talk to some of you even through the computer so that maybe you might see things how I see them and failing that maybe understand me a little. And I don't mean see things how I see them so as to change your opinions or to agree with me I say it meaning to really see how I see things and experience them.
Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:30 am
#15124- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Maybe....start by saying what you mean to say, be how you mean to be, and all that.
Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:07 pm
#15178- RickMember
Kaz--Money wrote:Maybe....start by saying what you mean to say, be how you mean to be, and all that.
I do say what I mean and mean what I say. People are not serious all the time, we joke we have fun. You should know that.
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