I don't Respect What I Did
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:34 am
#13538- AlphaI like Pink
cheers to that, watch when 2012 rolls around and they think they can push off another half ass game thinking it'll top sales. Next TA COD will tank.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:36 am
#13540- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
I'll be happy to play MW3 or whatever with anyone who'll boycott with me, treyarch has taken what used to be fun, and made it a rage inducing experience
Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:40 am
#13541- VetteBrownie
- Location : Ohio
But to be good with any of those guns takes work. You have to remember the recoil patterns and the range that its effective at, then tap fire if need be. MP5k isn't a cake walk. I'll just ignore some of the enemies I see primarily because I'll put 2 bullets in them, then the recoil will throw me off and they'll spin around and pick me off. Famas is basically a pick up and go gun, the others are not. My first ever game in Black Ops I used the MP5k and hated it. I had to make a class with a red dot sight to even get it to work. Then I started to learn how to use it, and can now use it with any attachment (I now like the silencer, has no muzzle flash. TRY IT)Kaz--Money wrote:An argument can, in fact, be made that any weapon, in the right hands, is OP.
Take for example you and Vette with the MP5. BEASTS.
The vast majority of people cant use this gun--and I don't think it has anything to do with them, or the gun. I think some guns have been designed to not work well for people's player profile. Take the AK47 and myself. I can't count the number of L3'ers who think it's a garbage gun. It's my go-to try-hard weapon.
Same with the 74u. I used it a LOT and millions still do. I can't make it work. But Natas (and soon I) can make the Mac11 work when even the beast xcalizorz throws it to the trash.
For me, whenever I used the Famas, it was the same "feel" as the F2000 in MW2. It bounced and fussed about no matter the range or trigger pulsing. I saw the laser beams other people had when they used it, and that just wan't my experience with it.
Chisa can own with the Galil, others think it's a trash setup that has too much movement.
I agree with Syn and might even go one step further and say that if 98% of the teams we play run a certain "OP" setup, why are we raging against the game, and the players, when we get beat by that setup. It's not like it's been roped off and we've been barred from accessing that setup.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:41 am
#13542MW3 or BF3. I will plat those. Why did I even buy BO, Cause I said the same thing when I got WAW that I would never buy a TA game again, I blame you guys. lol
If you don't get it, I'm not getting.
Yes Alpha, Shotty losing to a Famas is a CQC battle where SHottys are supreme in it.
SO yea, You can use the Famas and can go positive any time. It has no lag on it.
If you don't get it, I'm not getting.
Yes Alpha, Shotty losing to a Famas is a CQC battle where SHottys are supreme in it.
SO yea, You can use the Famas and can go positive any time. It has no lag on it.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:43 am
#13544- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
I barely touched the mp5k for 5 prestiges
picked it up during the 6th and started going to town
in one prestige, i went from about 100 kills with it, to just shy of 1300 kills and rising
I'm even considering going all of 8th prestige using either a mp5k or shotgun
(that won't last, I'll switch to something)
picked it up during the 6th and started going to town
in one prestige, i went from about 100 kills with it, to just shy of 1300 kills and rising
I'm even considering going all of 8th prestige using either a mp5k or shotgun
(that won't last, I'll switch to something)
Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:45 am
#13546- VetteBrownie
- Location : Ohio
Chisa wrote:I barely touched the mp5k for 5 prestiges
picked it up during the 6th and started going to town
in one prestige, i went from about 100 kills with it, to just shy of 1300 kills and rising
I'm even considering going all of 8th prestige using either a mp5k or shotgun
(that won't last, I'll switch to something)
I tried that. Doesn't work. You just get frustrated. I don't use the MP5k all that much, just on maps I like using it with. Reason I get so many kills with it is I typically do well with it.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:19 pm
#13606- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
lol.
Im not getting the hate you guys are having on the Famas. Its not the gun, its the players using it.
If a guy sitting in a corner with ghost on can use a gun with absolutely no flaw... why cant a guy who rushes and uses FJ use it?
I got tired of getting beat while im using a shotgun too.
Im not getting the hate you guys are having on the Famas. Its not the gun, its the players using it.
If a guy sitting in a corner with ghost on can use a gun with absolutely no flaw... why cant a guy who rushes and uses FJ use it?
I got tired of getting beat while im using a shotgun too.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:35 pm
#13607Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:40 pm
#13608- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
He got to 15 without "easy mode", so I think he's cleared of being labeled as someone who needs training wheels
have at it Syn
have at it Syn
Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:40 pm
#13609- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Shadow wrote:Because your joining the crowd who needs easy mode.
I dont NEED it. My stats speak for my words.
I just prefer not being able to use that gun as an excuse as to why im losing. If ive got the same gun and still am losing... I know its a connection issue lol
Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:45 pm
#13611- AlphaI like Pink
So we all going Famas tonite? Used it just now on GW Dom, point and spray.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:48 pm
#13612Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:50 pm
#13613- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
what button for that option?
Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:51 pm
#13614Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:53 pm
#13615- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
aw hell, I bought the prestige edition and I still didn't get that
treyarch sucks
treyarch sucks
Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:56 pm
#13616Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:57 pm
#13617- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
oh well, maybe next time
Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:18 pm
#13627- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Hate to break it to you shadow, some people need the easy mode. I'm one of them.
Even with the Famas, even with ghost, even with all the training wheel things in the game, I can't manage stats or gameplays like you, Alpha or Syn. I just can't. I have neither the connection nor the skills.
So while I like to hold my head high in the post game lobby for running a 2nd 3rd or even 4th rate gun, I hate looking up from scoring position 10, 11, or 12.
I really enjoy playing a game, running around and killing a bunch of people, and then seeing Kaz--Money in one of the top 3 slots. I just enjoy that so much more than using a broken MP5 against 6 Famas's and feeling like I just had my dck severed at the base, and end up having to look up 8 spots to the podium finishers.
I have personally reached the limit of my tolerance for everything in this game....and one of those things is continually maintaining the myth that I'm "above" using the so-called easy mode sht.
Easy mode puts me mid-pack, at best...and i'm sure it has the same effect on everyone else who chooses that "easy" path. Sure I like to be challenged, but continually not rising past the challenge tells me that there are certain hurdles that some people just....don't....get over.
I'm over this pride thing. Especially since we're talking about pushing buttons, not competing in a triathalon....and even then, I won't do the running leg of the race barefoot. i'd have one some "easy mode" Nike Air's.
Even with the Famas, even with ghost, even with all the training wheel things in the game, I can't manage stats or gameplays like you, Alpha or Syn. I just can't. I have neither the connection nor the skills.
So while I like to hold my head high in the post game lobby for running a 2nd 3rd or even 4th rate gun, I hate looking up from scoring position 10, 11, or 12.
I really enjoy playing a game, running around and killing a bunch of people, and then seeing Kaz--Money in one of the top 3 slots. I just enjoy that so much more than using a broken MP5 against 6 Famas's and feeling like I just had my dck severed at the base, and end up having to look up 8 spots to the podium finishers.
I have personally reached the limit of my tolerance for everything in this game....and one of those things is continually maintaining the myth that I'm "above" using the so-called easy mode sht.
Easy mode puts me mid-pack, at best...and i'm sure it has the same effect on everyone else who chooses that "easy" path. Sure I like to be challenged, but continually not rising past the challenge tells me that there are certain hurdles that some people just....don't....get over.
I'm over this pride thing. Especially since we're talking about pushing buttons, not competing in a triathalon....and even then, I won't do the running leg of the race barefoot. i'd have one some "easy mode" Nike Air's.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:38 pm
#13634I honestly don't care. You come in with a mind set like that is the reason why most fail.
Well guess I can use Famas and Ghost since i haven't used it for 13 prestiges. Because I need the extra help. Doesn't matter how good you are at the game.
You become better by pushing yourself to the limit not taking a steroid pill to jump 10 levels and think you're awesome.
Sure connections suck at BO and FPS sucks. But it doesn't stop you from using other weapons.
Well, Guess What I'm saying, go ahead, you need the help, use it, I ain't stopping you. Just don't complain when they use it if you use it.
And I don't think the 47 is easy mode.
Well guess I can use Famas and Ghost since i haven't used it for 13 prestiges. Because I need the extra help. Doesn't matter how good you are at the game.
You become better by pushing yourself to the limit not taking a steroid pill to jump 10 levels and think you're awesome.
Sure connections suck at BO and FPS sucks. But it doesn't stop you from using other weapons.
Well, Guess What I'm saying, go ahead, you need the help, use it, I ain't stopping you. Just don't complain when they use it if you use it.
And I don't think the 47 is easy mode.
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:40 pm
#13637- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
I don't think we're in danger of Kaz coming in here and proclaiming that he's awesome
Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:43 pm
#13639- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Shadow wrote:I honestly don't care. You come in with a mind set like that is the reason why most fail.
Well guess I can use Famas and Ghost since i haven't used it for 13 prestiges. Because I need the extra help. Doesn't matter how good you are at the game.
You become better by pushing yourself to the limit not taking a steroid pill to jump 10 levels and think you're awesome.
Sure connections suck at BO and FPS sucks. But it doesn't stop you from using other weapons.
Well, Guess What I'm saying, go ahead, you need the help, use it, I ain't stopping you. Just don't complain when they use it if you use it.
Seriously I dont need you talking any shit to me. I put damn good scores up and have for 14 +days. We talk and rage so much at black ops. You know what would help alleviate some of that? YES. Running a gun that is has extremely high bullet damage. Why do you think its so effective at all ranges? Not because its a laser. But because its bullet damage is astounding. I can pick anybody off at a distance by tapping the trigger.
Its the medium-close range this gun has. Its ****ing ridiculous.
Well guess I can use Famas and Ghost since i haven't used it for 13 prestiges. Because I need the extra help.
Thats not why im using it. I dont NEED the extra help, like ive said before.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:46 pm
#13640Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:12 pm
#13641- AlphaI like Pink
Water on the fire men. Someone take the high road and hold a response before this gets drug into an online conversation and 1 person doesn't want in the lobby.
If its available to everyone, use it to your demise. As long as we're all still busting ass making laps around the maps we should support each others decisions. Team at war with each other is easily defeated.
If its available to everyone, use it to your demise. As long as we're all still busting ass making laps around the maps we should support each others decisions. Team at war with each other is easily defeated.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:14 pm
#13642- moosedawg06Member
- Location : Georgia
I do all I can not to use it. However, if I do pick one up off the ground due to dwindling ammo in my primary, Ill use it until I die or pick up another weapon. Ive gotten to the point now where when I prestige, I do all I can to use something else until I unlock the Galil. I used to run Ghost on a few classes, but after discovering FJ, I only run it on my Sniper class. We consistently murder people without it, so there is no doubt in my mind that 6 of us with them would be absolute rape. I personally wont use it, but if anyone else does I wont mind, based on the fact I know none of you will sit in a corner with it.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:20 pm
#13643- Kaz--MoneyMember
- Location : Calgary, AB, Canada
Actually, I only learned that certain guns and perks were wrong by reading what people always wrote on C4B about certain guns and perks being bad or easy mode.
If I'm going to be honest with myself and everyone here, I actually have no problem with the Famas because, like Lilac, I never see what kills me, and when I do, I'm oblivious because I'm mostly watching the act of dying, not the weapon doing the killing.
I ran the silenced UMP for the vast majority of my time in MW2 and did well with it...but tried to 'evolve' when starting BO. It hasn't been a smooth or successful evolution, and after 12 days + of playing the game, I have begun to question why I would challenge myself if merely getting by was challenging enough on it's own.
You can play like a bawse on a 2 bar, and I can't point and shoot with 4.
You can own with the MP5 and I can't even put up equal numbers with a Famas and Ghost.
I need to stop holding myself to the expectation that I am or will eventually become on the same level as you syn and Alpha. I'm not there, and never will be....not on this connection and not in this game.
If there was ever a reason to do away with public stats, it's the possibility we have to view user gun stats. I hazard a guess we'd see a lot of one trick ponies in our crew if we went back to COD4 (MP5) and MW2 (UMP). Nothing wrong with using what works.
If I'm going to be honest with myself and everyone here, I actually have no problem with the Famas because, like Lilac, I never see what kills me, and when I do, I'm oblivious because I'm mostly watching the act of dying, not the weapon doing the killing.
I ran the silenced UMP for the vast majority of my time in MW2 and did well with it...but tried to 'evolve' when starting BO. It hasn't been a smooth or successful evolution, and after 12 days + of playing the game, I have begun to question why I would challenge myself if merely getting by was challenging enough on it's own.
You can play like a bawse on a 2 bar, and I can't point and shoot with 4.
You can own with the MP5 and I can't even put up equal numbers with a Famas and Ghost.
I need to stop holding myself to the expectation that I am or will eventually become on the same level as you syn and Alpha. I'm not there, and never will be....not on this connection and not in this game.
If there was ever a reason to do away with public stats, it's the possibility we have to view user gun stats. I hazard a guess we'd see a lot of one trick ponies in our crew if we went back to COD4 (MP5) and MW2 (UMP). Nothing wrong with using what works.
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