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Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:49 am
#70465- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
Syndrome wrote:Alpha wrote:You don't have fun if you're 2 seconds behind. Even trying to screw with people, they kill you before you know it
Yeah. I get more of those games in Bo3 than I did in almost any other Cod. AW was worse.
at least Titanfall will have dedicated servers, as will Battlefield 1
Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:20 pm
#70466- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Chisa wrote:Syndrome wrote:Alpha wrote:You don't have fun if you're 2 seconds behind. Even trying to screw with people, they kill you before you know it
Yeah. I get more of those games in Bo3 than I did in almost any other Cod. AW was worse.
at least Titanfall will have dedicated servers, as will Battlefield 1
Deosnt make a difference... unless you are located 5 miles from the server. Then it will.
Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:59 pm
#70467It does make a difference.
If YOUR connection is shitty, you're punished. It doesn't punish everyone because people have a shitty connection. Having played on both, p2p connection really matters and I don't have a great connection and had 0 problems on Titanfall where I felt someone was 2 seconds ahead of me.
If YOUR connection is shitty, you're punished. It doesn't punish everyone because people have a shitty connection. Having played on both, p2p connection really matters and I don't have a great connection and had 0 problems on Titanfall where I felt someone was 2 seconds ahead of me.
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:26 pm
#70471- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Here is what I cant quite figure out.
So lets say we go into a game and it picks you as host. Thus P2P has started, and everyone's connection is reliant on your location and your connection. Isnt that how P2P works? Or is it based around each person to each person? If that was the case that doesnt make sense neither, because how would that work?
I understand dedi server's are located throughout and they are powerhouse server's... unlike picking the best connection from a lobby. But it would still function the same.
Remember "God Host" in Cod4? Where being the host of the lobby, put you at such an amazing advantage? Back before the term "Lag Compensation" existed?
THATS where I think thing's get muddy. The term "Lag Compensation". So let's say we go back to CoD4 (which we will in Nov). Lets say we still have P2P and you still get that "God Host". Only now they have implemented the "Lag Comp" that they have been doing since around Mw3 (it was in older ones, but Mw3 was the first really noticeable difference). No one knows how it works... they simply know there is no God Person in the lobby, rather a group of people who are clearly ahead, and a group of people who struggle. Instead of 1 person being untouchable... now we have a group.
Since the introduction of HIGH SPEED internet... we have had lag comp.
I dont get it.
We are going to get Comp'd, whether its on a dedi server... or not.
So lets say we go into a game and it picks you as host. Thus P2P has started, and everyone's connection is reliant on your location and your connection. Isnt that how P2P works? Or is it based around each person to each person? If that was the case that doesnt make sense neither, because how would that work?
I understand dedi server's are located throughout and they are powerhouse server's... unlike picking the best connection from a lobby. But it would still function the same.
Remember "God Host" in Cod4? Where being the host of the lobby, put you at such an amazing advantage? Back before the term "Lag Compensation" existed?
THATS where I think thing's get muddy. The term "Lag Compensation". So let's say we go back to CoD4 (which we will in Nov). Lets say we still have P2P and you still get that "God Host". Only now they have implemented the "Lag Comp" that they have been doing since around Mw3 (it was in older ones, but Mw3 was the first really noticeable difference). No one knows how it works... they simply know there is no God Person in the lobby, rather a group of people who are clearly ahead, and a group of people who struggle. Instead of 1 person being untouchable... now we have a group.
Since the introduction of HIGH SPEED internet... we have had lag comp.
I dont get it.
We are going to get Comp'd, whether its on a dedi server... or not.
Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:17 pm
#70472Your problem is CoD. Titanfall doesn't have "lag compensation" and I don't know about Battlefield.
No matter what you do, someone will have an advantage but dedicated servers drastically reduces the amount of advantage a person gets. You're not dependent upon one person and whatever the hell else they're doing on their connection. You know p2p is a problem when they have to invent "lag compensation" to fix it.
So it is gonna be dependent on YOUR connection instead of THEIR connection.
No matter what you do, someone will have an advantage but dedicated servers drastically reduces the amount of advantage a person gets. You're not dependent upon one person and whatever the hell else they're doing on their connection. You know p2p is a problem when they have to invent "lag compensation" to fix it.
So it is gonna be dependent on YOUR connection instead of THEIR connection.
Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:15 am
#70473- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
Ik0n wrote:Your problem is CoD. Titanfall doesn't have "lag compensation" and I don't know about Battlefield.
No matter what you do, someone will have an advantage but dedicated servers drastically reduces the amount of advantage a person gets. You're not dependent upon one person and whatever the hell else they're doing on their connection. You know p2p is a problem when they have to invent "lag compensation" to fix it.
So it is gonna be dependent on YOUR connection instead of THEIR connection.
Battlefield does not have any detectable lag comp, and the connections (for me) are usually perfect (even when playing in a team of Europeans or West Coasters)
Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:46 am
#70476- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Chisa wrote:
Battlefield does not have any detectable lag comp, and the connections (for me) are usually perfect (even when playing in a team of Europeans or West Coasters)
Id consider BF a different animal. Its not as twitchy as CoD... so the lag aspect isnt quite there.
Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:53 am
#70478- ChisaGod Of Boobs
- Location : Boston, MA
Syndrome wrote:
Id consider BF a different animal. Its not as twitchy as CoD... so the lag aspect isnt quite there.
that's one of the things I hate about COD...the extremely low TTK is a lazy mask for lag comp
Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:48 pm
#70479- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Chisa wrote:Syndrome wrote:
Id consider BF a different animal. Its not as twitchy as CoD... so the lag aspect isnt quite there.
that's one of the things I hate about COD...the extremely low TTK is a lazy mask for lag comp
Right? If anything the low TTK makes lag comp more evident. Should be much higher. It seems to get worse with each new CoD.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:58 am
#70481- AlphaI like Pink
BO games 'lag spike' even when you play bots on a LAN. It's pathetic that's the best they can do with hundreds of million in revenue.
Picked up AW months back and the screen freeze jumps 4-5 times a game, offline. It doesn't freeze the game, because you still get killed.
Picked up AW months back and the screen freeze jumps 4-5 times a game, offline. It doesn't freeze the game, because you still get killed.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:13 pm
#70482- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Alpha wrote:BO games 'lag spike' even when you play bots on a LAN. It's pathetic that's the best they can do with hundreds of million in revenue.
Picked up AW months back and the screen freeze jumps 4-5 times a game, offline. It doesn't freeze the game, because you still get killed.
PS4?
Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:01 am
#70483- AlphaI like Pink
Syndrome wrote:
PS4?
ah, ok scratch that. But I'll cheer the better side on.
What's the ratio around here 10 PS4 to 5 Xbox to 2 PC ?
Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:35 am
#70484- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Im not sure anyone is left on Last Gen consoles. I was probably the last one (besides maybe you?)
Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:06 pm
#70489- AlphaI like Pink
I can't hang with these rich bastards. I got that new gamecast
Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:57 pm
#71165- SyndromeAdmin
- Location : Ohio, USA
Alpha wrote:I can't hang with these rich bastards. I got that new gamecast
Seen you playing Doom last night. You play MP on that yet?
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